Transcript: 01-21-2025

Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the west, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable radio talk show. All right. Happy to have you along. My fellow Americans, Sam Bushman live on your radio. Hard hitting news the networks refused to use, no doubt starts now. This, my fellow Americans, is the broadcast for January 21st in the year of our Lord 2025. This is our one of two. And the goal, always protect life, liberty and property to promote God, family and country to do so on your radio in the traditions of our founding fathers.

Man, we’ve got so much to talk about, so little time. Sheriff Mack is with me. Sheriff Richard Mack is the founder and president of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association. Cspoa.org welcome back, sir. Thank you, Sam. It’s great to be with you this beautiful and historic Tuesday morning. Amen to that for sure. Our guest today, former Sheriff Mark Lamb. He’s now a law enforcement consultant specializing in immigration and border security. You got to dig that. Welcome to the broadcast, Sheriff Lamb. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me on. First, we got to talk about Trump issued a full, complete and unconditional pardon for most of the January 6th defendants.

Trump called them political hostages. I agree with that completely. More than 1500 people, people are leaving prison last night and today. And they say this proclamation begins a process of national reconciliation. And then Trump also, after pardoning those 1500, he commuted the sentence of 14 other January 6 political prisoners, meaning they still retain their convictions, but they’re just sentenced to time served, from what I understand. Sheriff Lamb, let’s have you take a stab at this first. What do you say? I like it. I like it. I think I’ve never seen the FBI work so expeditiously and so quickly as when it came to going after people that were there on January 6th.

And what they tried to do is throw a blanket over everybody that was there to say they’re all bad, they were all bad. And frankly, I don’t know that you can even use the word insurrection when not a single gun was found on any of those people that were there at the Capitol that day. And the only person that lost their life was Ashley Babbitt at the hands of somebody who was never held to account for shooting an unarmed person. So look, I think there’s all sorts of bad things we’re finding out. The FBI was involved now.

And President Trump said something very important yesterday. He said, look, even for those people who you think should have been held accountable, and there are some of them, no doubt, how Long do they have to stay in jail? Because they’ve been in jail for four years, and that is longer than many murderers. Many sexual assault people get, big suspects get. So I liked it. I think it was the right thing to do. And, and I think it sends a message to that, to the. To the American people that we have our country back and that justice has a mercy side.

In other words, all crimes are not equivalent. You know, I had a friend who testified at one of our events, and his name is Casey Cusick. He basically served 10 days in prison, federal prison. They didn’t find him guilty of anything. They just said, you were a drop in the stream of water that day. I’m trying to think of the way the judge said it. The insurrection bucket, the insurrection bucket from the insurrection. I mean, it’s just insane. But he didn’t do anything wrong. And they didn’t. Even when it was cross examined, they didn’t have a single crime that related to him.

Sheriff Mack. Yeah, I remember him. And we both have talked to him. He’s. He’s a solid acquaintance of ours, but I don’t think he was alone. There was a lot of people that just sat there, prison for the whole four years, never had trial, never had charges. So all of that’s so completely illegal. And for the left to ignore this stark evidence of the government corruption in this case. The FBI admitted readily that they had operatives in plain clothes at this January 6th event. They just won’t tell you or tell anybody or come clean as to how many and what their purpose was in being there.

And then we still have Ray Epps, who everybody thinks was working for the FBI, who was clearly on videotapes encouraging and trying to get everybody they could. He could to enter the building. Well, he was free. Ray. Ray Epps walks free. Now, what also is interesting, Casey Cuc had to go to the restroom. He asked for permission to go in and go to the restroom. He peacefully went to the restroom and then left. He didn’t do anything. But they literally, you know, he literally asked if he could go and go to the restroom, and they said, sure, yeah, well, so it was a witch hunt.

Thank heavens for Donald Trump overturning it. I think it’s huge. I think it’s significant. Several people got commuted sentences. Fourteen of them, Stuart Rhodes, one of them, Kelly Megs, the others. But this is interesting. Can I just add. Can I. Can I have one more thing, Sam, please? I don’t want to hear anybody complaining from the left, because Joe Biden just got through pardoning 8,000 people. And many of those people were not just criminals, but enemies of the state, people who, who had very bad motives. Yeah, they border on true terrorism even, don’t they? Yeah, they wanted to take America down.

He was commuting the sentences of, of hardcore criminals. And look, I, I don’t want to hear anything from anybody on any other side because these folks, they can never get the time back, even though they may be pardoned. It’s no longer on their record. You cannot get the time back they spent in the gulag in D.C. right. I know we’ve only got you for a little bit, Sheriff Lamb, so I want to make sure we use the time super wisely. From what Donald Trump did yesterday, it was a huge day. We’re going to be spending both hours on the show even getting to the tip of the spear on this thing.

Trump pardons Enrico Therio, who was a former Proud Boys chairman or whatever, he got a pardon, but Stewart Rhodes just got a computation or commutation. Now, what I find interesting about that is they say, and maybe you know more about this, Sheriff Lamb, but they say that when you get a pardon, it’s not, it’s not in effect until you accept the pardon. But if you accept the pardon, according to a 1950s court case or whatever, it’s an admission of guilt. It’s almost like you’d rather have your sentence committed than a pardon to some degree. Any knowledge on that? I don’t have a ton of knowledge on that.

My understanding was commuted. Just means that, you know, time served, basically. Or they can say instead of 20 years, you’re going to serve five years. I’ve always understood that as a commutation. It makes sense to what you’re saying, though, that a pardon would be like. But either way, if you get a pardon, then theoretically it’s got to come off your record. You’ve been pardoned for it. So I would have to say that those people that were charged with felonies are no longer felons, is my understanding. But I’m not an expert on the pardon versus commutation, Sheriff Mack.

I’m not either, but I just found some of these differences here. 14 got committed, 1500 got pardoned. Well, I never thought that a pardon, if you accept it, meant you were guilty of anything. I didn’t either, until, until it’s been promoted in the news lately. And I just kind of go, what? I’ve never seen that. You know, I thought it was just the opposite. You’re not guilty. So we’re trying to get you a pardon. But of course Biden changed the nature of pardons all 100%. He’s, he’s preemptive. He’s doing preemptive pardons, which I don’t, I don’t know if that could even be legal.

But Biden, it’s obvious, just like Sheriff Lamb was saying, it’s obvious that he was pardoning people who should have never been pardoned. This, this supposed insurrection was completely and 100% one sided. The, the congressional committee on January 6th was all the enemies of President Trump. And I thought we got rid of that Jim Crow style jury selection and investigations back in the 50s and 60s. But no, no, the, the Democrat party loves to have it. And, and then they try to act like, oh yeah, this is completely legit. Trump got convicted of 40 felonies and, and you know who else did? Martin Luther King.

Martin Luther King got arrested over 30 times and he was not a criminal and never committed a crime. And same with, of our good new 47 president, he was convicted of several things, but he never committed a crime. And the left needs to wake up and, and I guess we the people need to make sure that they do. And Sheriff Lamb, I got a question for you. Are you in Washington D.C. right now? I was, I came back last night. But I’ll tell you, it was great being out there. So many great Americans, like minded Americans out there just celebrating and you could just feel this whole vibe change even amongst people that maybe weren’t super pro Trump.

It just felt, it just felt like everybody was happy for where the direction of America is going. Now we understand we got a lot of problems we gotta fix, but at least we have somebody that has a clear direction, a decisive direction. They’re not afraid to tell people. I loved what he did in his speech yesterday because he needed to call those people out. They can’t just go and try to destroy this country and not be called out for it. I’m glad they had to sit through there like two children being scolded for their, for their app.

Go ahead and skip the break. Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Mark. I said the same thing. No, I, you guys did if you got to take the break. Nope. That’s all I wanted to say. I skipped the break just for you. No problem at all. But we got plenty of things to talk about though. So. The pardons are huge. The feeling yesterday, I mean, hey, talk about feeling repressed, that’s gone now. You don’t feel like you can’t get to the microphone even with some criticism if you need to, from President Trump because he believes in free speech in a very meaningful way.

Now here’s the other interesting thing. Trump said, hey, I’m going to stop this anchor baby deal. I’m gonna stop. If you’re, you know, supposedly born in the United States, then, hey, just because you crossed the line and, you know, have an anchor baby. Well, now the ACLU files a lawsuit already this fast against Trump because of his executive order that seeks to end birthright citizenship. So not only did Trump put the executive order stopping birthright citizenship, but now they claim it crosses the 14th Amendment boundary. And now there’s already an ACL lawsuit. Sheriff Mack, you’re first this time.

Well, the, the aclu, back in the day, they were actually about civil rights. Now they’re just about agenda driven baloney. Liberal clown show. Yeah, yeah, it is. It’s just whatever’s liberal, that’s what they support. It’s kind of like the naacp. They used to be about civil rights. They’re not anymore. It’s just a branch of the federal government. Yeah, well, it’s a branch of the Democrat Party. Sorry. So it’s, it’s such, it’s become such a joke. And civil rights are about what Martin Luther King said they were and what the, what the Constitution says they are, what the Bible says they are.

You know, these are our God given rights. And that’s, that’s the other part that ACLU ignores because they believe that you can’t say the word God anywhere in government. And they have. Trump just did baby. Several times. Yes, of course. And good on him for it. Yeah, of course. And so the ACLU is a joke. And so they’re just a branch of the Democrats and I’m fed up with them. And they’re just going to do anything that’s contrary to the Constitution. Sheriff Lamb, where do you think this goes? Because some are saying it crosses the 14th Amendment boundary, that, hey, if you’re born here, you’re going to stay here.

Trump’s just saying it’s a little more nuanced than that. You know, hey, you just can’t have people come with an intent of creating an anchor baby. Well, you know, look, I like what he said last night. They said, do you think this is going to hold up? He’s like, well, I don’t know. We’ll find out. Look, I think it’s something that needs to be defined. When they, when they gave us the 14th Amendment, it was designed to, to take in all of the children of the Slaves and make them citizens. I don’t think they ever intended for it to be a blanket for anybody that came into this country illegally to hold themselves here.

And I think it’s something that the courts need to define do I think it’s gonna go. I don’t know which way it would go. You know, let’s see what the, what the Supreme Court has to say. And I think it’s been a long time that this has been needed to be challenged. What I think needs to happen is Congress needs to clarify with a bill really quick and not leave it to the court to decide. Let’s just clarify the Congress and say here it is. And then we can be very hard on the Supreme Court if they get it wrong.

I’m not real hopeful. I mean, look, we have a very thin margin. Congress is still. Congress and Senate for the last several decades have been very ineffective, which is what’s been opening the door for all the bureaucrats in Washington D.C. to take power. It’s also given the judges, these corrupt and inept judges all across this country to make laws from the bench. It’s also given the executive branch the more power to go out and do what they’ve done over the last several decades. I would love to see Congress actually do their job, but I’m not hopeful in Congress.

I’m a little more hopeful that Senate will be a little bit more common, sensical, but I’m not super hopeful on Congress because the track record says otherwise. Sadly. I agree with you 100%. I’m just saying that if we wanted to clarify and not leave things to the whacked out courts, the answer is to have Congress define the law so clear that it can’t be misinterpreted and then really be hard on the courts if they do. Now, Trump did something else interesting. In addition to the Stop the anchor baby program, I guess there’s a announcement now Posted on the CBP1 program on the website declaring that, hey, you can no longer use the app anymore.

You can no longer, you know, you gotta basically wait in Mexico. That’s all shut down. This is serious and good news, Sheriff Lamb. That’s phenomenal news. I’ve been complaining about CBP1 app for a long time. Not only has our government been abusing it, the cartels have been abusing it. They have been filing these, these, these frivolous asylum claims. Many 90% of them get overturned. It has been a travesty. This is what they have used to bring people in here so that they don’t have to count them as apprehensions so that the American people don’t truly know that this open border has had.

Not only that, they’ve actually flown them in from other countries. Under this cbp, one app needs to go. We should probably look into whoever created it and just. And hold some of those people accountable, too, because this has been an awful, awful implementation. Sheriff Mack. Yeah, that one’s really obvious. And Sheriff Lamb called it correctly. I still want to move to one other thing that I was alluding to earlier. Sheriff Lamb, have you been contacted by anybody in Washington that might be offering you a position? You know, I had one contact, but. But for the most part from the administration, I have not had any contacts.

I did throw my name in the hat in the ring. And if they needed some help, you know, unfortunately, I couldn’t. I don’t have the ability or the bank account that allows me to sit and just wait for phone calls. So I’ve had to march forward and. And do some business. I’m doing some consulting and advising and trying to stay very involved with the border. I’m working with fair, the Federation for American Immigration Reform. You know, it’s Sheriff Mack and Sam, you know, I’m a strong constitutional guy. I believe in the Constitution with all my heart.

I believe in the role that the sheriffs play in protecting and safeguarding the Constitution. I know you guys do, too. I know, Sheriff Mack, you’ve been a stalwart champion for the Constitution and the role that sheriffs play. I’m just trying to stay very involved in those passionate things that I’m doing. Mental health, reentry, substance abuse. Those are the things that I’m focused on. But the answer. Those are big ones, Sheriff Lamb. Those are big ones, Sheriff Lamb, because that shows the mercy side of this. You know, they look at Tom Holman and they go, oh, this guy’s just a curmudgeon.

He just hates everybody. No, we want the criminal gone because they’re going to rape your daughter, because they’re going to murder your son, because they’re going to destroy the country. They’re terrorists. But beyond that, we want to have mercy plans. We want to work on the mental health situations. We want to work on some of these opportunities that can give people better lives across the board. It’s not just about, hey, we’re going after everybody crazy. Like, it’s about a nuanced plan that makes sense, that the liberals don’t really want people to see the whole plan. Right? Yeah.

And that’s a great point. Because a lot of people look and say, if you want border security, you clearly don’t care about humanity. It’s actually the opposite. These people who never come to the border and then who want border security then think that’s the humane thing are so wrong. There are people being abused every day by the cartels, left for dead Americans dying from fentanyl. And these are the things that we actually, as law enforcement, we deal with firsthand. We’re the ones that save them in the desert. We’re the ones that bandage their feet. We’re the ones that give them care.

So the last people that they should be calling inhumane are the first responders who are actually on the front lines. Tom Holman, myself, so many other sheriffs and law enforcement, we understand the balance of mercy and justice like you brought up earlier. And while it is illegal to come into this country, we have never, I have never once ever seen a single person that came to this country illegally mistreated in any way. To the contrary, they get better treatment than Americans do. Oftentimes we’re not treating our homeless as well as we’re treating people that broke the law and came to this country illegally.

So I don’t want to lecture on any of these people, from any of these people, on what is who’s humane and who’s not, because I haven’t seen one of them step foot down here. How serious do you think the sheriffs are in backing President Trump and Tom Holman in their efforts? And how serious do you think the president is? Give me kind of a your thoughts on that. Well, I think the sheriffs are very serious about it because what has happened in our backyard is in their front yard today. Sheriffs from across this country, no matter what state you go to, they’re all being affected by the illegal immigration and many times more than what we are in Texas and Arizona.

These people, if I were to have 20 that would cross over. I was just with a group last week in Southern California. There was six of them, two women, two men and two kids. Not one of them was planning on staying in California or Arizona. They were all going to New Jersey. They were going to Georgia. They were going to all these different places. So it is, it is affected everybody. So the sheriffs want to get this problem going. Tom Homan has been very good about already reaching across the aisle. And I expect President Trump will do the same as he did in his first term where he had, the sheriffs had a seat at the table and they understood the importance of the.

And the role that local sheriffs and local law enforcement play in achieving success in these areas and the border is going to need all hands on deck. Amen to that, Sheriff Mack. Well, Sheriff Lamb has his finger on the pulse of America very well. He knows what’s going on. He knows probably better than anybody, sheriffs all across this country. And we’re proud to have two great constitutional sheriffs today. Sheriff Lamb to start the show, and then Sheriff Wayne Ivey, who Sheriff Lamb knows very well from Brevard County, Florida. So I really think that we’re on top of it all today.

Sam, this is going to be a great show. It’s already being that. So, Sheriff Lamb, thanks for all the work that you’ve done. You and I have known each other for about eight or nine, 10 years there, and I endorsed you when you went to what you first ran for sheriff. And you have had an amazing career. You spent time on television with. What was it called? Cops TV. Yeah, we did live PD. We did 60 days in. And, you know, we’ve been. We have the biggest social media following of any law enforcement agency across this country.

You know, Wayne Ivey and I, we were good friends and we, we would often compete. And, and really what it is is about sharing a message of the importance of law enforcement and the role that these good men and women that put on the badge do every day and the respect that they deserve. And so thank you and thank you for being a support to us and thank you for fighting for sheriffs and the Constitution. It has been an honor to be not just, you know, involved in, in, in being a sheriff, but also appreciate your friendship along the way.

Really quick, before we let you go, Sheriff Lamb, you had the opportunity to swear in your replacement, Sheriff Ross, right? That’s right. Sheriff people. I was able to swear him in and he’s off and running and he’ll be constitutional and he’s ready to take on the border, too. Oh, yeah, he’s a great constitutional guy. I mean, I don’t know if you can find too many people that are more second amendment than me. He might be, but I don’t know. I mean, we’re. He is extremely constitutional and I believe he’s got the fortitude to stand up against the government.

I don’t anticipate that being the case with this administration, but should we get another rogue or just anti American immigration administration with, like, what we saw, he’s going to be the guy that will stand in the gap for us. Sheriff Mark Lamb, everybody. Law enforcement consultant specializing in Immigration and Border Security. Boy, do we need that right now. I’ll tell you that right now. Sheriff Lamb dot com. Thank you so much. We’ll have you back soon, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you. All right, Sheriff Mack continues with me, ladies and gentlemen. We got another surprise guest coming up, too.

Remember how Donald Trump released 1500 plus people? We got people on the ground helping to pick up the prisoners. We’ll tell you about it in seconds. You are listening to the one and only Liberty Roundtable live proclaiming liberty across the land. You’re listening to Liberty News Radio news this hour. From townhall.com I’m Rich Thomason. It is President Trump’s first full day in office for his second term. Among items on his agenda today, a prayer service later this morning at Washington national cathedral. After two assassination attempts, Mr. Trump says his words. I was saved by God to make America great again.

And America has a new secretary of state. The nomination of the great Senator Marco Rubio from the state of Florida is confirmed. And with that unanimous Senate vote, Marco Rubio is now America’s top diplomat. Hitting the ground running, President Trump quickly signed a pile of executive orders, among them, pardons for roughly 1500 people. Mr. Trump calls them hostages charged and jailed in connection with the January 6th US Capitol riot. And he acted with lightning speed on the immigration crisis with aggressive speed. On his first day back in office, President Trump signed executive orders for increasing border security, designating drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations, and limiting birthright citizenship.

We’re the only country in the world that does this with birthright, as you know, and it’s just absolutely ridiculous. In his inaugural address, the president said his administration will begin returning millions of criminal aliens back to the places in which they came. Ray Clarkston, the White House and moments before leaving office, President Biden pardoned his brother and other members of his family amid allegations of influence peddling that earned them millions. President Trump says it sets a bad precedent. Wildfire devastated Southern California, dealing with the return of the gusty Santa Ana winds enhancing the fire risk. 70 mile per hour plus wind speeds recorded in some places.

Ohio State celebrating another college football title after holding off a Notre Dame comeback bid. The Buckeyes walking away with a 3423 victory over the Fighting Irish. Stocks higher on Wall Street. Townhall.com Making America Great again starts with making America healthy again. You know, I lost over 50 pounds on the PhD weight loss and nutrition program. Nearly three years later, I’ve kept it off. You know why? Because I trusted Doct Dr. Ashley Lucas and the terrific team at PhD weight loss. They’ve been making America healthy for over 10 years. Millions are being spent on weight loss injections that have harmful side effects and lifelong dependency.

Do what I did. Take the natural approach that isn’t connected to Big Pharma’s bottom line based on science and nutrition. A proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off. You’ll learn how to quiet the cravings, finally release that unhealthy belly fat. You won’t be hungry and you’re never going to be taking a medication. How many pounds do you want to lose in 2025? PhD weight loss leading the charge to make America Healthy Again Text the word healthy to 717-767 just text the word healthy to 717767 or visit myphdweightloss.com myphdweightloss.com Former Sheriff Richard Mack recounts in his book the Proper Role of Law Enforcement how he came to realize while working as a beat cop how wrong the all too common common orientation of police officers is when they think of their job as being to write tickets and arrest people.

Richard Mack tells of his personal transformation from by the number cop to Constitution conscious defender of citizen safety and freedoms. Learn what it really means to serve and protect. Purchase your copy@cspoa.org that’s cspoa.org do you know what is great about America? Ask an Immigrant Ask an Immigrant is a new podcast dedicated to helping Americans, especially our youth, value, appreciate and be grateful for the freedoms we have here in America. Join host Lydia Wallace Nuttall as she interviews immigrants from around the world to discover their inspiring personal stories about why they came to America. To learn more about why America is the most prosperous, greatest country in the world, download the Loving Liberty app or go to lovingliberty.net the foundation for Moral Law is a non profit legal foundation committed to protecting our unalienable right to publicly acknowledge God.

The foundation for Moral Law exists to restore the knowledge of God in law and government and to acknowledge and defend the truth that man is endowed with rights not by our fellow man, but by God. The foundation maintains a twofold focus. First, litigation within state and federal courts. Second, education conducting seminars to teach the necessity and importance of acknowledging God in law government. How can you help? Please make a tax deductible contribution allowing foundation attorneys to continue the fight. You may also purchase various foundation products as well. @morallaw.org Located in Montgomery, Alabama, the Foundation for Morrill Law is a Nonprofit Tax Exempt 501, founded by Judge Roy Moore.

Please partner with us to achieve this important mission. Morallaw.org broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the west. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable radio talk show. All right, happy to have you along, my fellow American, Sam Bushman live on your radio. Hard hitting news the networks refused to use, no doubt continues. Now. This is the broadcast for January 21st. So let me get this straight. Donald Trump has not even been president for 24 hours yet. Well, I guess he let me think about this, how it all works in an hour and a half or something like that.

He’ll be president for 24 hours. What more can you get done? It is crazy. 100 executive orders releasing 1500 J6 prisoners. 14 got their sentences committed. And we’re just getting started, baby. Kirk Lonius with us from Texas. He’s CEO of the Lonius Companies. But he’s much more than that. He’s a volunteer for a group making a huge difference. They’re standing in the gap, ladies and gentlemen. Okay. And this is really important what they’re doing. American patriotrelief.org that’s American patriotrelief.org is the group there with. First off, tell us a little bit about that, Kirk. Then we’ll get into exactly what you guys have done since Donald Trump took office.

Well, thank you, Sam. Yes, American Patriot Relief is one of several organizations that has been providing assistance to J Sixers and their families. And there’s, it’s just like you said, all volunteers there have been, you know, providing all kinds of spiritual and emotional support, physical support, housing, transportation, food in some cases. And we’ve had some great success in just the last 12 hours with picking up many of the released J6 heroes around the country. Encountered some, some problems too at some of the prisons, but we believe those are being worked out today. So great news. Now, are those just logistics problems or people being difficult? Kirk? Well, it seems that there’s a mix of both.

Yesterday being a national holiday, there was speculation, you know, I’m just following a lot of this through, you know, X, formerly Twitter, getting live video from places all over the country. But you know, the D.C. gulag, the here in Texas, we’ve had a few situations where the wardens didn’t believe that they had the proper paperwork or they said that the pardons were only for people who had already received sentences, but not for people whose, you know, legal cases were still in process or who were awaiting sentencing. And they just asking their people to be patient. Some of the volunteers were advised by the county sheriff to contact the U.S.

marshals Service. So there. It seemed to just be a variety of situations around, you know, different. Different facilities, but. Yeah, but things seem to be. You know, really what you’re saying is a lot of it’s just related to confusion based on what Joe Biden’s done over the last four years, which is trying to pick up the pieces that people come together for common sense. Yeah, it could be because we know that many of the prisoners were moved to multiple facilities over the course of the last two, three, four years, whatever length of time. They called it diesel therapy.

You know, we heard some had been in up to 15 different facilities across the country, which just. Yeah, I learned about diesel therapy in the early 90s. I used to interview a guy by the name of George Hansen. He was a former congressman from Idaho that took on the irs, and they barbecued him. And anyway, long story short, after they destroyed his whole life, they had to pay out a bunch of money because he was right and they were wrong. But nevertheless, they ruined his life, just like Joe Biden’s tried to do to all these people.

Sheriff Mack, now that they’re all going free, what do you say? There’s a huge operation led by Kirk Lanius and many others. Gary Haven, a huge leader in this as well. They’re doing a phenomenal job. Sheriff Mack. Yeah, Kirk. Kirk has worked with us at CSPA for a long time also, and he’s always active, helping and trying to make America a better place to live. And this is a great project, Kirk, that you and John and others have done and put your lives on the line for. You know, first of all, I don’t believe that they can.

That a warden or a sheriff or anyone else can put a condition on these pardons. Once the pardon comes, the charge, just as Biden has shown it, you can even do preemptive pardons. If you can do a preemptive pardon, you can damn well sure do one that. The guy’s already been charged, he got pardoned, the case is dropped. It’s gone. So none of them get to start trying to dissect what a pardon really is. And when it applies, as soon as you see the pardon, warden or sheriff, because he runs jails, do you got to release those people? So right now, Kirk, what, What, What.

What do you guys need? I. I know I put. I filled out an application online that I can go and. And pick some. Some of these people up. Do you know if there’s any in my old hometown of Stafford at the federal prison camp at. In Stafford, Arizona or they. Near the Phoenix area. Phoenix and Tucson area. Yeah, that’s a great question, Sheriff Mack. And you mentioned John. So that’s John Perigee. He’s the CEO of American Patriot Relief. And I think he actually might be resting right now because we were up at 2, 3, 4 this morning still getting people out.

But yeah, so I’ll check with John and let you know on that. We’ve had a spreadsheet. It had, you know, hundreds of names and we were just checking them off and it was very dynamic and still is at this time. But I can, I can check with that and let you know. I think right now if people want to follow on X the American Patriot Relief is at aprfoundation. So if anyone wants to follow on X. Formerly Twitter. I know that Mark and Jaleese Middleton, who many probably know about their story, they were the couple that were peacefully praying outside of the Capitol.

And Jaleese, disabled Patriot, was. Was basically assaulted by the police right there at the line. And they. I know Jalees is home and I think Mark will be out here shortly. But as far as, you know, donations are still welcome and I’ve given you all the gifts and go. If you’d like for me to repeat that, I can, but we’re almost. Yeah, yes, do repeat that. Okay. So people are familiar with GiveSendGo.com so if they’ll go there. And then it’s a forward slash freedoms ambassador. And that’s. Freedoms is plural. Ambassador is singular. So it’s give send go.com forward slash freedoms ambassador.

That’s it. And that will bring up the give send go page and you’ll see an explanation there. My understanding is that those donations are, you know, tax deductible if that helps with anyone making that decision. And yeah, we appreciate. It’s called the J6Freedoms Ambassador Project. And I had for example, some military veteran friends in Georgia who went to a facility and it didn’t look hopeful, you know, yesterday afternoon they stayed there all evening and there were three, there were three men that were being held. And then they waited and waited and midnight was coming. They were told the warden was not happy with the way things went down.

That’s a direct quote. And I advise him to say what you said, Sheriff Mack, pardons or pardons and you need to respect POTUS’s order. And anyway, by a little after midnight, somehow miraculously, all three came out the door. And I think two of those men are headed to Florida and One’s headed to Virginia and these. These volunteers are transporting us. Well, what a blessing that is for neighbors, helping neighbors first, the commandment is to love thy God and love thy neighbor as thyself. And this project really speaks to this, in my opinion, in a real way.

It reminds me of that country song, you know, they talk about they just jump in their car and they come real fast and they don’t care about what’s going on there, you know. Yeah. Find out who your friends are is what it’s called. Anyway, long story short, you guys are really doubling down and delivering. I’m going to the Ambassador site now. Giveset and go.com freedoms with an ass. Ambassador singular, Doc. Or that’s it. Givesetgo.com freedoms ambassador. You guys have a goal of a hundred thousand. You’re not quite there. We got to get it over the top.

I’m putting in a hundred dollars right now, and I’m asking everybody else to do the same at least. Thank you. I could give more, I would, but we got to do this right now. People, they need the money. Not yesterday. These people are getting out right now. They don’t have. Some of them have medical issues. They have medical. Go ahead, sir. Yeah, yeah, Some have medical issues. They need special transportation. We’ve had some business owners who actually own, you know, private aircraft that have sent those. They’re actually in the air right now around the country, east coast, west coast, you know, you can go on, like I said, various platforms, freedom platforms like X and check the status of certain people.

Some, some of the pretty big names, some that had the M.O. you know, up to, what was it, 18 year sentences. Yeah, Stuart Rhodes over at Oath Keepers is being released, and as far as I understand, the folks over the Gateway Pundit are picking him up, which is great news. Yeah, it’s just really amazing. And so they’re urging patients on some of these others. I noticed that a gentleman who was recently assigned by the White House to be the liaison to the new Department of Justice has an ex account and he was liter. Walked over to the D.C.

gulag and was interacting with the, you know, the prison officials there on behalf of the White House. So they’re getting some very direct attention this morning. And I believe if those people aren’t out very soon, it’s kind of, it’s not going to end well for some of these Bureau of Prisons people and anybody in leftover deep staters that want to, you know, cause some, some problems here. Kirk, I know Sheriff Mack asked what we can do and I know donate’s one of the big things as well. Do you need people with vehicles, too? I mean, how much do we have? With all these people being released and all that we know, how much do we have covered versus what? What? You know, Sam, I.

I think most of that’s covered. I’m. I’m gonna. I’m gonna let John get a little bit more rest before I call him here shortly and wake him up. But, yeah, he’s been. He and others. I could name people. Now. You’re talking about our dear friend John Preji, right? Yes, John, the CEO John. I just want to give him credit for a tremendous job done here. Yeah, and Sheriff Matt got to meet him out at America Fest in Phoenix at our booth. We had the yellow ribbon campaign going. You know, there’s another group that David Sumrall runs that.

Stop Hate. That Stop Hate. That is a phenomenal job. Yeah, he’s. He’s a good friend here in Texas. And, you know, he’s. His. His research efforts started way back, well before J6 back going to, I think to Los Angeles riots. So he’s been an investigator and collaborated with many of the, you know, the documentary filmmakers, films like Bloody Hill and, you know, the War on Truth, and. And I’ve met so many of the J6ers, people like Victoria White, who was a woman that was just. She was beat with batons by the police in the tunnel at the Capitol that day and suffered so much.

Laura Logan has covered her case. I’ve got to meet her at the film premiere. And these people are personal friends now, and she. She received a full pardon yesterday, so we’re just so grateful. But, yeah, as far as that, just praying. I think we’ve got most of the transportation covered, but, you know, I can let you know here later this morning if we do have any areas of the country that still need coverage. But mainly just praying and putting it up to God to just be the hands and feet of Jesus to these, you know, these people.

I don’t know about you, but I, you know, I know I would be greatly impacted by even just a few weeks or a few months. Many of these people prisoners in solitary confinement. So we just really need to pray for their spiritual and emotional needs and. But we’re seeing great signs that just they were jumping for joy. I saw the video of them coming out of the prison there in Georgia last, you know, early this morning, and this gave me a lot of joy. It’s all praise to God. Amen to that, ladies and gentlemen. Look, this is this is serious business.

And one of the things that I think is important, I don’t, I don’t want people to underestimate the power of prayer here. I know at some point you kind of feel like, man, you know, prayer, we got to do something more. Hey, man, prayer is plenty. Now, if you can put some dollars in, please do so. GiveSendGo.com freedoms ambassador but either way, do what you can. You know, these J6 prisoners are tough men, many of them, but, man, they’re in tears. To make your point, Kirk, Sheriff Mack, what do you say to that? You got grown men in tears because of the justice tempered with mercy that Donald J.

Trump is providing. Well, there’s been all sorts of miracles around this, Sam, and I guess the first one was one that even President Trump brought up about how he was saved, miraculously saved. I mean, you get a shot in the ear, you’re only inches away from being killed and maybe even less centimeters, probably. But all, all of this has been quite miraculous. Prayer does work, especially the United prayers of Christians and Americans all across this country gone on for far too long. And a lot of people have dedicated their lives to freeing these people, these political prisoners in the United States of America.

And Sam, all of us. Kirk, you’ve seen this. Sam, you’ve seen this. We’ve all been attacked so relentlessly, lied about, and they don’t care. NBC, Channel 5 and Walter Cronkite School of Journalism have attacked us so viciously and intentionally lied about us going after us, and they don’t care. None of them care. This is part of their agenda is to try to destroy people. And they’ve tried to destroy the cspoa. They’ve tried to destroy us. And this, this is not going to stop. And so when we win and we get some of it back, I just praise the good Lord and say, have said thank.

Thank you, Lord, for this blessing and Lord, thank you for this blessing that these people are now finally being freed. It has worn. It has weighed on our hearts, and we’re so grateful for people like Kirk and John Perigee and others who have helped make this possible. And I’m making a donation even as we speak. Also. Kirk Lonius, what do you think is next? I mean, releasing the prisoners has been something we were praying Trump would do. We had hope that he would do it. We just weren’t sure how holistically it would be or whatever else he has delivered with flying colors.

Many people even wrote that it was a litmus test for Donald when he took Office boy. Did he deliver on that? I mean, he spent time yesterday giving speeches all over the, all over the place to all kinds of different crowds. He did the inauguration speech and then he did several other speeches. He signed executive orders all day in front of everybody and their dog. He had people going to the galas and he had, I mean, it was just, it was a day, I don’t know that I could keep up with him. Oh, it was, and it started so early and I had right side broadcast network live stream on one hand and I had my phone on the other work to coordinating with people like John.

Let me just point out that Mark and Juliece Middleton founded American Patriot Relief. So they, you know, their sentencing date kept getting pushed back and pushed back, pushed back. They finally had to report to prison just in December. I think it was December 18th. So and then people were still being arrested up until, my understanding is over this past weekend. So it just shows you how hell bent the former doj, the corrupt doj was to get people into prison right up to the last minute. I also want to mention people like the Caldwell’s, Kevin and Mary here in Dallas that were also board members of that group.

But let me tell you, there’s a lot of questions too about Tina Peters. Now she’s in on Colorado state charges, Right. That we, we all followed. I think it was Judge Barrett and that whole charade. But, you know, people are actually, you know, suggesting, and I think it’s, you know, to President Trump and others, that there are some things that could be done by the president, by Congress to put pressure on the, I guess it would be the governor of Colorado and in terms of federal funding that might flow there. But the wheels have begun to be falling off of that case too, and has filed her appeal.

She’s not a broader immigration issue. A lot of these places that are doubling down. The whole state of California put together $50 million to try to fight Trump at every turn. Now you get the ACLU suing, you got the Colorado, you know, governor saying he’s not going to cooperate or whatever else. Tom Holman and Trump say they’re coming for you. They’re serious. I was just going to say it was so refreshing there at America Fest. Sheriff Mack, you might have, I think you know, Tom Homan as well. But I’m just literally able to walk up to him.

I’ve met him before and he told me, like you’ve heard, I think Chicago, they’re coming. I mean, it’s, I’m sure it’s already underway. The moment President Trump has sworn in. So, yeah, these sanctuary cities and counties, it’s not going to, not going to go well for them. But, but it’s, yeah, just continuing. So as far as where it goes, I think definitely this, it’s a movement. It’s not just about, and you know, President Trump has always said it’s, it’s not about me, it’s about all of you. They, this is really an attack on all of us.

And so I think, you know, Tina Peters, the border situation will be the others and then really the military before, before you go on, as far As I understand, J6, there’s words yesterday. And so people are wondering, well, what about all some of the other people like Tina Peters and others, Ken Cromar, many people who need, Steve Stockman, many people who need, need pardons and are they going to come? And as far as I understand from the administration, J6 was yesterday. But over the next couple of weeks, they will be issuing several more pardons to needy people around the country for a variety of reasons.

So don’t, don’t lose hope on that either. Let’s keep pushing people. Right. And then there were people that, you know, were arrested for, you know, praying at abortion clinics and that kind of thing. And I saw that, I read that pro life advocate Bevelyn Williams, who was put in prison for three years, you know, for protesting abortion clinics, was, was pardoned by President Trump. So I believe you’re right that that’s already, you know, occurring. I read that@the lifenews.com site and it’s on X LifeNews HQ. So those. Yeah, you’re absolutely right. You can’t put this back in a bottle.

This movement is liberty movement is spreading. Yeah. Ron Paul acted as a precursor for it. So did Pat Buchanan. I mean, many other people have kind of set the stage for Trump and many of us to take serious, serious action. And it’s time to peacefully do that now. President Trump has also officially designated the cartels at our southern border foreign terrorist organizations. Sheriff MACK that’s huge. It is huge, Sam, and that’s why this show is huge today. This is a topic that is being talked about the country, but really with people boots on the ground that are trying to make this happen.

This is amazing. One question, Kurt. Someone who has been associated with us in the past, do we know if Stuart Rhodes is out yet? I saw a video on X. I think it was a family member. It was a video taken from within a vehicle. They were on the phone with the warden at the facility where he was being held, I don’t have the, the X handle to go to find it, but it’s probably floating around the, you know, certainly on X. And they said he was literally there at the door. She asked where do we need to drive up? Front door, back door.

They said just he’s going to come right out the front door here in a moment. And my understanding from the logistics of all of that that there was already transportation range. Apparently it’s a friend or family member there and I should. Yeah. The Gateway Pundit, by the way, is the ones that are involved in picking Stewart Rhodes up. Okay. Yeah, I think it was. Far as I understand, he’s out. The Gateway Pundit. Yeah, I think it’s on the Rumble Channel, the Gateway Pundit. There’s probably some video there. But, you know, another area is just the money flow of all of these issues.

You know, it’s probably one of the last areas that people are familiar with. But a good friend, Kevin Freeman, who has, he runs economic war Room, you might know him, you know, through Glenn Beck and you know, some of this, a lot of the states. Sorry to interrupt. Exclusive video from the Gateway Pundit. Two hours ago he was released. Fantastic. Anyway, sorry, don’t mean to interrupt. Go ahead. It’s good. You know, Texas has established the gold bullion depository. I know Utah and other states have led the way with moving towards, you know, gold and silver, transactional currency.

So I think if the economic power can be. There’s a liberty movement going on, you know, along those lines with gold and silver and Bitcoin and all kinds of things like that. I think people are finding ways to really, you know, drain the power out of all of these, these whatever you want to call it, the deep state, the global actors that are just oppressing us that, you know, whether it’s through the military industrial complex or big pharma or, or the media matrix, they’re all. There’s a free freedom movement that’s been unleashed that is not going to go back in the bottle.

And so I encourage people to just get active on the personal finances, you know, stay out of debt. Gold and silver, I know Sheriff Mack, you’ll agree, is an area that people need to familiarize themselves with, you know, just sound money. Like you mentioned, Dr. Ron Paul led the way on that decades ago. So it’s just really, we’re at a, just an awakening of the American people and the golden age. But we’ve got to stay focused because the enemy, the wolves are still at the gate. And we’ve got our work cut out for us. But I, I think you’re seeing, I know you, you’ll agree just the last two to three years, just with our liberty movement, with the sheriffs, we’ve seen so many people coming out want more than ever want to know how they can get involved.

So amen. Promote your two websites. Then we got to let you fly. Yeah. American patriotrelief.org and then the givesendgo.com forward/freedom ambassador. So freedom’s plural. Ambassador, singular. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much. Kirk Lonius. Thank you. We got to give a huge shout out to Gary Haven as well. He’s been incredibly fluential in this as well. And man, just great work. The gateway pundit everybody’s doing. Let’s get these people home and with their families, shall we? Hour one in the can. Hour two coming up. I’m Sam Bushman with Sheriff Richard Mack, cspoa.org join and become a posy member today and God save the republic.
[tr:tra].

➡ This radio talk show, Liberty Roundtable, discusses recent events including former President Trump’s pardon of most January 6th defendants, calling them political hostages. The show hosts and guests, including Sheriff Richard Mack and former Sheriff Mark Lamb, discuss their views on the pardons and commutations, comparing them to recent pardons by President Biden. They also discuss the nature of pardons and commutations, and the implications for those who receive them.
➡ The speaker discusses their positive feelings about the direction America is heading under Trump’s leadership, despite acknowledging existing problems. They also discuss Trump’s executive order to end birthright citizenship, which has led to a lawsuit from the ACLU. The speaker criticizes the ACLU and NAACP for being agenda-driven rather than focusing on civil rights. They also mention the need for Congress to clarify the law regarding birthright citizenship and express their dissatisfaction with the CBP1 app, which they believe has been abused by the government and cartels. The speaker ends by emphasizing their commitment to constitutional principles and their work on issues like mental health and substance abuse.
➡ Law enforcement officers, like sheriffs, are often the first to help people who are being abused by cartels or suffering from drug-related issues. Despite this, they are sometimes accused of being inhumane. These officers argue that they treat everyone, including illegal immigrants, with care and respect, often better than some American citizens are treated. They are committed to addressing the issue of illegal immigration and believe in the importance of their role in maintaining law and order.
➡ Lydia Wallace Nuttall hosts a show interviewing immigrants about their experiences coming to America. The Foundation for Moral Law, a non-profit organization, works to protect the right to publicly acknowledge God and educates about the importance of acknowledging God in law and government. The Liberty Roundtable radio talk show discusses current events, including the release of J6 prisoners and the work of American Patriot Relief, a volunteer group providing support to these individuals and their families. The show also highlights the importance of community support and donations to continue their work.
➡ The text discusses a fundraising effort for people who are in need, particularly those with medical issues. Some of these individuals are being released from prison and require special transportation, which is being provided by private aircraft owners. The goal of the fundraiser is $100,000, and the speaker encourages everyone to contribute. The text also mentions the power of prayer and the importance of supporting these individuals emotionally and spiritually.
➡ The text discusses the ongoing political and social issues in the United States, including the actions of President Trump and the resistance from certain states and organizations. It mentions the pardoning of individuals by the President, the designation of cartels as foreign terrorist organizations, and the liberty movement’s efforts to challenge the status quo. The text also highlights the importance of personal finance and the use of gold, silver, and Bitcoin as alternatives to traditional currency. Lastly, it emphasizes the need for continued vigilance and involvement in the fight for freedom.