Growing List of Sheriffs, Associations and Police Chiefs Saying ‘NO’ to Obama Gun Control


UPDATE: We’ve been contacted by police chiefs and other groups or individuals who want to be counted among the valiant as well! Look for their list after the sheriffs.

The following sheriffs, state sheriff’s associations, and police chiefs have vowed to uphold and defend the Constitution against Obama’s unconstitutional gun control measures.  We applaud these public servants for their courage and conviction.  

The remarkable thing about what these brave men and women are doing is that nobody told them to do it.  Neither the CSPOA nor any other organization that we are aware of contacted sheriffs across the nation and asked them to make statements; this is something sheriffs did on their own, or because their constituents requested it of them.  Soon, people started submitting letters and links to us, and it was such a remarkable thing that we started to collect all the names and list them together.  Then the miracle happened: Other sheriffs across the nation have been inspired by the courage of those who stood first.  Now we see the power of standing, even if you fear you may stand alone.

NOW, powered by the gaining momentum of this movement, the CSPOA has joined with other like-minded organizations in a largely volunteer effort to contact all the remaining sheriffs and ask them for a statement. You can read more about this effort here.

“I call on sheriffs all over this nation to add their voices to the growing numbers of faithful protectors of our freedom.”

– Richard Mack

Constitutional Duty of the Sheriff – Richard Mack

A NOTE ABOUT THE FLORIDA SHERIFF’S ASSOCIATION: These guys were some of the first to make our list, but they have turned down to be a great disappointment as they have lobbied hard against a bill designed to protect 2nd amendment rights in the event of a natural disaster. That’s right; they would rather take guns from people when they need them the most. FLORIDA SHERIFF’S ASSOCIATION IS NOW OFF THE LIST!


Updated 10/06/2015

Note: A statement from a state association does not necessarily mean that every sheriff in the state supports it. One such case is is Florida, listed below. This statement was voted on and approved by a majority of the sheriffs in the association, but not by EVERY sheriff in the state. While other lists may include all sheriffs within such a state, we have chosen to list associations and individual sheriffs separately.

AssociationReason for Listing
Colorado Sheriffs Association Link
Georgia Sheriffs Association Link
Illinois Sheriffs Association Link
Indiana Sheriffs Association Link
Kentucky Sheriffs Association Link
Minnesota Sheriffs Association Link
Missouri Sheriffs Association Link
Montana Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association Link
Nebraska Sheriffs Association Link
New Mexico Sheriffs Association Link
Oklahoma Sheriffs Association Link
South Carolina Sheriffs Association Link
Texas Sheriffs Association Link
Utah Sheriffs Association Link
Wyoming Sheriffs Association Link


Updated 10/06/2015

We are in the process of researching and posting links to online statements for all entities on these lists. You can help us by sending us links to statements by any of them.If you know a sheriff or association that should be listed: Please send us the sheriff's full name, county, and state along with a link to an online statement by the sheriff if available. You may also email us supporting documents via the contact page.

Disclaimer: While we encourage all sheriffs and peace officers to join CSPOA, the list below includes members of the CSPOA and any others who have gone on record to uphold their oath by having made public statements, written open letters or contacted us personally and asked to be included. We have indicated which sheriffs are members of the CSPOA.We evaluate each sheriff on a case by case basis, but in general we are looking for sheriffs whose statements contain:

  • A reaffirmation that the sheriff will follow his or her oath and uphold the Constitution
  • An affirmation to support the constitutional second amendment rights of citizens in his or her jurisdiction
NOTE: Some persons or organizations on this list state that they are in favor of further gun restrictions in order to 'keep guns out of the hands of criminals and/or the mentally ill.' The CSPOA is NOT in favor of these programs becasue we realize they just can't work without controls that would severely limit the freedoms of law abiding citizens. We also recognize that throughout history, gun registration is always followed by confiscation. And guess what: a required background check is the same thing as required registration. Let's not be stupid. Once the info is on file, it's going to be abused.

HOWEVER, we are listing individuals who are still trying to have it both ways because we believe they have taken the first positive step by stating that they will defend the constitutional rights of the citizenry. We hope they will soon realize that the two ideas cannot exist together.

Names added recently are marked with the number of days since added, in the 'NEW' column. For instance, 5D = Added 5 days ago.

NEWSTCounty/Parish/etc.SheriffReason for Listing
ALBaldwin Huey 'Hoss' Mack Link
ALBarbour LeRoy UpshawPersonal request
ALChilton Kevin Davis
ALHouston Andy Hughes Link
ALLee Jay Jones
ALMadison Blake Dorning Link
ALMorgan Ana Franklin Link
ARBoone Mike Moore Link
ARCross JR Smith
ARNevada Danny Martin Link
AZCochise Mark J. Dannels Link
AZMaricopa Joe Arpaio Link
AZMohaveTom Sheahan Link
AZNavajo Kelly "KC" Clark Link
AZPinal Paul Babeu Link
AZYavapai Scott Mascher Link
AZYuma Leon WilmotStatement Link
CAAmador Martin Ryan Link
CAButte Jerry Smith Link
CADel Norte Dean Wilson Link
CAEl Dorado John D'Agostini Link
CAFresno Margaret Mims Link
CAHumboldt Mike Downey Link
CAKern Donny Youngblood Link
CALassen Dean Growdon Link
CAMendocino Thomas AllmanCSPOA Member Link
CAModoc Mike Poindexter Link
CANevada Keith Royal Link
CAPlacer Edward Bonner Link
CAPlumas Greg Hagwood Link
CARiverside Stanley Sniff Link
CASan Luis Obispo Ian S. Parkinson Link
CAShasta Tom Bosenko
CASierra John Evans Link
CASiskiyou Jon Lopey Link
CAStanislaus Adam Christianson Link
CATehama David Hencraft Link
CATrinity Bruce Haney Link
CATuolumne James W. Mele Link
COBent David R. Encinias Signed Petition
COCheyenne Ken Putnam Signed Petition
COClear Creek Don Krueger Signed Petition
COCuster Fred Jobe Link
CODouglas Dave Weaver Link
COEl Paso Terry Maketa Link
COElbert Shayne HeapVideo Link
COFremont Jim Beicker Link Signed Petition
COGarfield Lou Vallario Link
COGilpin Bruce HartmanVideo Link
COHinsdale Ronald B. Bruce Link
COHuerfano Bruce NewmanPersonal Recommendation Link
COJackson Scott Fischer Link
COJefferson Ted Minkvideo Link
COLarimer Justin Smith Link
COLas Animas James W Casias Link
COLogan Brett L. Powell Link
COMesa Stan Hilkey Link
COMoffat Tim Jantz Link
COMontezuma Dennis Spruell Signed Petition
COMontrose Rick Dunlap Link
COProwers James Faull Link
COPueblo Kirk M. Taylor Link
CORio Grande Brian Norton Link Signed Petition
CORoutt Garrett Wiggins Link Signed Petition
COSedgwick Randy Peck Link
COSummit John Minor Link
COTeller Michael A. Ensminger Link
COWashington Larry Kuntz Link
COWeld John CookeNews Artile Link
COYuma Chad Day Signed Petition
DESussex Jeff Christopher Link
FLBay Frank McKeithen Link
FLBradford Gordon Smith Signed Petition
FLBrevard Sheriff Wayne Ivey Link
FLCalhoun Glenn H. KimbrelStatement Link
FLCharlotte Bill Prummell, Jr.Statement Link
FLClay Rick Beseler
FLCollier Kevin RamboskStatement Link
FLDixie Dewey HatcherStatement Signed Petition
FLDuval John Rutherford Link
FLFranklin Mike Mock Link
FLHamilton Harrell Reid Link
FLHernando Al NeinhuisOath Link
FLHolmes Tim Brown Link Signed Petition
FLLafayette Brian Lamb Link
FLLee Mike ScottStatement Link Signed Petition
FLLeon Larry Campbell Link
FLLiberty Nick Finch Link
FLMarion Chris Blair Link
FLMartin Bill Snyder
FLNassau Bill Leeper Signed Petition
FLOkaloosa Larry Ashley Signed Petition
FLPolk Grady Judd Link
FLSeminole Donald F. Eslinger Link
FLVolusia Ben JohnsonRecommended by his pastor
FLWalton Michael Adkinson
GABartow Clark MillsapPersonal email / recommendation
GACarrollTerry Langley Link
GACherokee Roger Garrison
GACobb Neil Warren
GAColumbia Clay Whittle Link
GAFannin Dane Kirby
GAFayette Barry Babb
GAGilmer Stacy Nicholson Link
GAGwinnett Butch Conway
GAOconee Scott Berry Link
GAPaulding Gary Gulledge
GAPike Jimmy Thomas
GAPutnam Howard R. Sills Link
GARockdale Eric J. Levett Link
GASpalding Wendell Beam
GATift Gene ScarbroughPersonal request
GATowns Christopher M. Clinton Link
GATwiggs R. Darren Mitchum
GAUpson Dan Kilgore
GAWalton Joe Chapman
IACedar Warren M. Wethington
IDAdams Ryan K. Zollman Signed Petition
IDBannock Lorin W. Neilsen Link
IDBenewah Dave ResserCSPOA member
IDBonner Daryl Wheeler
IDCanyon Kieran Donahue
IDClark Bart May
IDClearwater Chris Goetz
IDFremont Len Humphries Signed Petition
IDGem Chuck Rolland
IDIdaho Doug Giddings
IDJerome Doug McFall
IDLewis Brian Brokop
IDMadison Roy Klingler
IDNez Perce Joe Rodriguez
IDOneida J.P. SemradRequested personally
IDPayette Chad HuffEmailed CSPOA Link
IDShoshone Mitch Alexander
IDTwin Falls Tom CarterCSPOA Member Link
IDWashington Matt Thomas
ILChampaign Dan Walsh Link
ILClark Jerry Parsley Link
ILClinton Mike Kreke Link
ILCrawford Todd W. Liston Signed Petition
ILDuPage John Zaruba Link
ILEdgar Edward Motley
ILFord Mark R. Doran Link
ILIroquois Derek Hagen
ILKnox David Clague Link
ILMadison Robert J Hertz Link
ILMcLean Mike Emery
ILSt. Clair Richard Watson Link Signed Petition
INBoone Ken Campbell
INElkhart Bradley D. Rogers Signed Petition
INFranklin Ken Murphy
INHancock Michael ShepherdCSPOA member
INRipley Tom Grills
KSChautauqua Perry RussellPersonal Contact
KSHarvey Walton TownsendCSPOA member
KSJohnson Frank Denning Link
KSLinn Barry WalkerCSPOA member
KSMontgomery Robert DirksPersonal Contact
KSSherman Burton PianaltoCSPOA member
KSSumner Darren ChambersCSPOA member
KYBath John Snedegar
KYBoone Michael A. Helmig
KYBullitt Dave Greenwell Link
KYCampbell Jeff Kidwell Link
KYGrant Chuck Dills Link
KYJackson Denny Peyman Link
KYKenton Chuck Korzenborn
KYPowell Scott F. Harrison
LAIberia Louis M. Ackal Link
MDCarroll Ken Tregoning
MDFrederick Charles A. Jenkins
MDGarrett Robert E. Corley Link
MDKent John Price Link
MDSt. Mary's Timothy CameronVideo of hearings Link
MDWicomico Mike Lewis Link
MIBaraga Bob Teddy Signed Petition
MIBarry Dar Leaf Signed Petition
MIBenzie Ted Schendel Link Signed Petition
MIChippewa Robert Savoie Link
MIClare John Wilson Signed Petition
MIKent Larry Stelma
MILeelanau Michael Borkovich Link
MIMason Kim C. Cole Signed Petition
MIMenominee Kenny MarksCSPOA member Link
MIOakland Michael J Bouchard Signed Petition
MISt. Joseph Bradley Balk
MITuscola Leland Teschendorf
MNAnokaJames StuartPage 12 of newsletter
MNChisago Rick DuncanStatement Link
MNItasca Victor Williams Link
MNMeeker Jeffery Norlin Link Signed Petition
MNOtter Tail Brian Schlueter
MNPine Robin Cole Link
MNRamsey Matt Bostrom
MNStearns John Sanner
MNTodd Peter MikkelsonStatement Link
MNYellow Medicine Bill Flaten
MOAtchison Dennis D. Martin Signed Petition
MOBarry Mick Epperly
MOBarton Larry Mitchell Shaw Link
MOBollinger Darin Shell Link
MOBoone Dwayne Carey Link
MOButler Mark Dobbs
MOCape Girardeau John Jordan Link
MOChristian Joey Kyle
MOCooper Jerry WolfeCSPOA Member Link
MODaviess Ben BecerraPersonal Contact Link
MOFranklin Gary Toelke Link
MOGasconade Randy Esphorst
MOHenry J. Kent Oberkorm Link
MOJasper Randee Kaiser
MOJohnson Charles Heiss
MOLawrence Brad A. DeLay Link
MOLincoln John Cottle Link
MOLivingston Steve Cox
MOMarion Jimmy Shinn
MOMercer Stephen Stockman
MOOregon George R. Underwood
MOOsage Michael Dixon
MORalls Gerry Dinwiddie
MOSaline Wally George Link
MOShannon Steven R. Blunkall
MOTexas James Sigman Link
MOWarren Kevin T. Harrison
MSDeSoto Bill Rasco
MSForrest Billy McGee
MSMonroe Cecil Cantrell
MSPearl River David AllisonPersonal Contact
MTCascade Bob Edwards
MTLake Jay Doyle
MTLewis and Clark Leo Dutton
MTMusselshell Woodrow Weitzeil
MTPowell Scott F. Howard
MTRavalli Chris Hoffman
MTSanders Tom Rummel
MTWibaux Darby Harrington
MTYellowstone Mike Linder
NCBrunswick John Ingram Link
NCCatawba Coy Reid
NCCleveland Alan Norman
NCCraven Jerry G. Monette Signed Petition
NCFranklin Jerry Jones
NCHarnett Larry Rollins
NCHenderson Charlie McDonald
NCJohnston Steve Bizzell Link
NCJones Danny HeathPersonal Contact Signed Petition
NCLee Tracy Carter
NCRockingham Sam Page
NCSampson Jimmy Thornton
NCStokes Mike Marshall
NCUnion Eddie Cathey
NCWake Donnie Harrison
NCWayne Carey Winders
NEDakota Chris Kleinberg
NHGrafton Douglas R Dutile
NMBernalillo Dan Houston
NMCatron Shawn Menges
NMChaves Patrick R Jennings
NMCibola Johnny Valdez
NMColfax Jim Maldonado
NMDe Baca Dennis A. Cleaver
NMDona Ana Todd Garrison
NMEddy Scott London
NMGrant Raul Holguin
NMGuadalupe Michael R Lucero
NMHarding Herman Martinez
NMHidalgo Saturnino Madero
NMLea Mark Hargrove
NMLincoln Robert Sheppard
NMLos Alamos Marco Lucero
NMLuna Raymond Cobos
NMOtero Benny House
NMQuay Joe Schallert
NMRio Arriba Joe Mascarenas
NMRoosevelt Darren Hooker
NMSan Juan Ken Christesen
NMSan Miguel Benjie Vigil
NMSanta Fe Robert Garcia
NMSierra Joe Baca
NMSocorro Phillip Montoya
NMTaos Miguel Romero Jr
NMTorrance Heath White
NMUnion William Spriggs
NMValencia Louis Burkhard
NVChurchill Benjamin D. TrotterCSPOA member Signed Petition
NVhumboldt Ed Kilgpore
NVLander Ron Unger Signed Petition
NVNye Tony DeMeo
NYAllegany Rick L. Whitney Signed Petition
NYErie Timothy B. Howard Link
NYGreene Greg Sealy Link
NYLewis Michael P. Carpinelli Signed Petition
NYLivingston John M. YorkNY Sheriffs Statement Signed Petition
NYOtsego Richard Devlin Jr.
NYPutnam Donald Smith
NYSaratoga James D. Bowen Link
NYSchoharie Tony Desmond
NYSteuben David Cole
NYSuffolk Vincent DeMarco
NYUlster Paul J. Van Blarcum Signed Petition
NYWashington Jeffrey Murphy Signed Petition
OHAllen Sam Crish
OHAuglaize Al Solomon
OHFairfield Dave Phalen Link
OHHancock Michael E. Heldman
OHMercer Jeff Grey
OHMontgomery Phil PlummerContacted via email
OHPreble Michael Simpson
OHRichland J. Steve Sheldon
OKCleveland Joe Lester Link
OKJackson Roger LeVick
OKMajor Steve Randolph
OKMcCurtain Johnny Tadlock
OKWagoner Bob 'Big Block' ColbertPersonal Contact
ORBaker Mitchell Southwick
ORClatsop Tom Bergin Link
ORColumbia Jeff Dickerson Link
ORCoos Craig Zanni Link
ORCrook Jim Hensley
ORCurry John Bishop
ORDeschutes Larry Blanton
ORDouglas John Hanlin
ORGrant Glenn E. Palmer
ORJackson Mike Winters
ORJosephine Gil Gilbertson
ORKlamath Frank Skrah
ORLake Phillip McDonald Link
ORLinn Tim Mueller Link
ORMalheur Brian Wolfe
ORMarion Jason Myers Link
ORPolk Bob Wolfe
ORUnion Boyd Rasmussen Link
ORWallowa Steve Rogers
ORWashington Pat Garrett
ORYamhill Jack Crabtree
PAAdams Jim Muller
PABerks Eric J. Weaknecht
PABradford Clinton J. Walters
PAButler Michael T. Slupe Link
PACambria Bob Kolar Link
PACameron Allen Neyman Signed Petition
PAChester Carolyn 'Bunny' WelshStatement Link Signed Petition
PACumberland Ronny R. AndersonCSPOA member
PAElk Jeffrey C. Krieg Signed Petition
PAFayette Gary Brownfield Signed Petition
PAJuniata Tom LyterPersonal contact Signed Petition
PALancaster Mark Reese Link
PALebanon Michael DeLeo Signed Petition
PAMcKean Bradley Mason Link Signed Petition
PAMontour Ray C. Gerringer.pdf Link
PANorthumberland Ed Quiggle, Jr. Link
PAPike Philip Bueki Link
PAVenango Eric FoyCSPOA member
PAWestmoreland Jonathan Held Link
SCAbbeyville Ronnie Ashley
SCBerkeley Wayne DeWitt
SCCharleston Al CannonVideo Link
SCCherokee Steve Mueller Signed Petition
SCEdgefield Adell Dobey
SCKershaw Jim Matthews
SCLexington James Metts
SCPickens Rick Clark
SCSpartanburgChuck Wright Link
SCYork Bruce Bryant
TNBlount James L BerrongStatements Link
TNBradley Jim Ruth
TNDyer Jeff Box
TNFentress Anthony (Tony) Choate Link
TNHamblen Esco R JarnaginCSPOA Blog post
TNHamilton Jim Hammond
TNMcNairy Guy Buck Link
TNWhite Oddie Shoupe
TXAnderson Greg Taylor Link
TXAngelina Greg Sanches Signed Petition
TXAransas Bill Mills Link
TXArmstrong J.R. Walker Signed Petition
TXAustin Jack Brandes
TXBlanco Robert Morgan Signed Petition
TXBurnet W.T. Smith
TXCherokee James Campbell Link
TXCoke Wayne McCutchen Signed Petition
TXCollin Terry Box Link
TXComal Bob Holder Signed Petition
TXCoryell Johnny Burks Signed Petition
TXCottle Rickey Lawrence Link Signed Petition
TXDallam Bruce ScottCSPOA member
TXEdwards Pamela L. Elliott Signed Petition
TXEllis Johnny Brown
TXFannin Dane Kirby
TXFisher J.A. Robinson Signed Petition
TXFoard Mike Brown Signed Petition
TXFort Bend Troy E. Nehls Link
TXGalveston Henry Trochesset
TXGrayson Keith Gary Letter Link
TXGrimes Donald Sowell Link Signed Petition
TXGuadalupe Arnold S. Zwicke Link
TXHardin Ed CainCSPOA member
TXHartley Frank ScottCSPOA member Link
TXHill Michael Cox
TXHockley R. C. Cheek Signed Petition
TXHopkins Butch Adams Signed Petition
TXHudspeth Arvin West
TXHunt Randy Meeks Signed Petition
TXHutchinson Don L Johnson
TXJasper Mitchell Newman Signed Petition
TXJohnson Bob Alford
TXKaufman David A Byrnes Link
TXLiberty Bobby Rader Link
TXLipscomb James Robertson Link Signed Petition
TXLive Oak Larry R. Bursby Signed Petition
TXLoving Billy B. Hopper Signed Petition
TXMason Buster Nixon
TXMcCulloch Earl Howell
TXMcLennan Parnell McNamara
TXMills Clint Hammonds
TXMontgomery Tommy Gage Link
TXMoore J.E. 'Bo' DeArmond Signed Petition
TXMotley Chris Spence Signed Petition
TXNacogdoches Jason Bridges Signed Petition
TXNewton Edward L. Shannon Link
TXOldham David Medlin
TXPecos Cliff Harris Signed Petition
TXPotter Brian Thomas Signed Petition
TXRandall Joel W. Richardson
TXSchleicher David R. Doran Signed Petition
TXShackelford Edward A. Miller Signed Petition
TXSmith Larry Smith
TXSwisher Cody Grubb Signed Petition
TXTaylor Ricky Bishop Link
TXTitus Tim Ingram Signed Petition
TXWaller R. Glenn Smith
TXWichita David Duke Signed Petition
TXWood Jim Brown Link
UTBeaver Cameron M. Noel Link
UTBox Elder Joseph Yeates Link
UTCache G. Lynn Nelson Link
UTCarbon James Cordova Link
UTDaggett Jerry Jorgensen Link
UTDavis Todd Richardson Link
UTDuchesne Travis MitchellStatement Link
UTEmery Greg Funk Link
UTGarfield James D. Perkins Link
UTGrand Steven White Link
UTIron Mark Gower Link
UTJuab Alden Orme Link
UTKane Lamont Smith Link Signed Petition
UTMillard Robert Dekker Link Signed Petition
UTMorgan Blaine Breshears Link
UTPiuteMarty Gleave Link
UTRich Dale Stacey Link
UTSan Juan Rick Eldredge Link Signed Petition
UTSanpete Brian Nielson Link
UTSevier Nathan Curtis Link
UTSummit David Edmunds Link
UTTooele Frank Park Link
UTUintah Jeff Merrell Link Signed Petition
UTUtah James Tracy Link Signed Petition
UTWasatch Todd Bonner Link
UTWashington Cory Pulsipher Link
UTWayne Kurt Taylor Link
UTWeber Terry L. Thompson Link Signed Petition
VAKing GeorgeSteve Dempsey Link
VALynchburgRonald GillispiePersonal Contact
VAWilliamsburg - James CityRobert J. Deeds Link
WAAsotin Ken Bancroft
WAChelan Brian Burnett Link Signed Petition
WACowlitz Mark Nelson Link
WADouglas Harvey Gjesdal Link
WAGrant Tom Jones Link
WAKlickitat Rick McComas Link
WALincoln Wade W. Magers Link
WAPacific Scott Johnson Link
WAPend Oreille Alan Botzheim Link
WASkamania Dave Brown
WAWhitman Brett Myers
WAYakima Ken Irwin Link
WIFlorence Jeff RickabyPersonal Request Link
WIMilwaukee David Clarke Link
WIWashington Dale K. Schmidt Link
WVBoone William "Randall" White Link
WVHardy Bryan Ward Link
WVLogan Sonya M. Dingess Porter Link
WVRaleigh Steve Tanner Link
WVRoane Mike Harper Link
WVWood Ken Merritt Link


Updated 10/06/2015
StateCounty or CityOfficeNameReason for Listing
IllinoisMedoraPolice ChiefChief Tommy RuylePersonal Contact
KentuckyMartinChief of PoliceMichael D. Napier Link
MissouriOld MonroePolice ChiefLarry KirkPersonal Contact
North CarolinaEllis Airport Police, RichlandsChief of PoliceHans MillerPersonal Contact
OhioSalinevilleActing Chief of PoliceStephen Paul ThomasPersonal contact
PennsylvaniaState ConstableAndrew Rumbold Link
PennsylvaniaNorthumberlandConstableEd Quiggle, Jr. Link
West VirginiaMeadow BridgePolice ChiefChief Sebby Lee VolpePersonal contact

How NOT To Get On The List

We used to have a list down here of lame sheriffs who are declining to defend the rights of their people, seemingly not realizing what is at stake or trusting the feds to be the only source of truth. Richard Mack has started calling this our Red Coat List. This list has now grown to include not just sheriffs and associations with cowardly stances, but also those who are openly attacking the good men and women who are standing firm. We’re moving this list to another page: The Red Coat List



  1. Sheriff Steven Smith of Greene County, Va. has signed the 2014 resolution and join the association as a member.
    his web site is:
    Everyone out there from his part of Virginia should thank him for sporting the organization.

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